345 V8 4-speed: 1970 International 1100D
Could you imagine if John Deere or Massey-Ferguson, or better yet, Minneapolis Moline or Oliver made passenger vehicles? International Harvester cut its teeth on tractors and other farm equipment but, as we all know, they also made vehicles like this 1970 International 1100D pickup. This fenderside cornbinder is located in Lockport, New York and it’s listed on eBay with a buy it now price of $5,500.
Most of us grew up when there were International trucks of all types roaming the streets, and when we could even buy a brand new one, but they have been gone for decades now at least in the passenger vehicle market. Their light truck line ran from the early-1900s up until 1975 which is quite impressive but I wish they were still selling pickups.
We don’t see too many fenderside / stepside I-H pickups and I’m not sold on the look of an ultra-square cab with a fenderside box. I think that the regular box looks better on an International pickup from this era but that’s just my personal preference. The seller says that this was originally an Arizona truck but they also mention that there will be a little rust repair that will need to be taken care of.
It’s nice to see some rust on the floor, as in it’s nice that a spray can wasn’t used to make things look better for the photos. Yes, that’s a third pedal, this is a 4-speed truck. A three-speed column-shifted manual, a 5-speed manual, and a 3-speed automatic was also available.
Is that a red hose?! This 345 cubic-inch V8 looks pretty clean, doesn’t it? I didn’t expect the engine to look this tidy after seeing the primer on the box and the rust on the floor of the interior. There is no word on how this engine runs or how the truck works, in general. Plan on the usual work, but you already know that since you’re all fans of old vehicles. What’s a fair offer for this I-H pickup?
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Comments
Now, now, it’s just a red vacuum hose, the heater hoses check out. How does it run? I’ll tell how it runs, like crap.( without even hearing it) Just a good ol’ truck, but of all the IH V8’s I’ve dealt with ( a few, mostly heavy duty application) not a one ran right. They all wreaked of gas, and don’t shut one off when hot. That clutch pedal looks like something out of a 4070 cabover, I don’t ever recall a pickup with a big pedal like that. I suppose it saved on tooling a separate clutch pedal, looks like the brake pedal used. IDK if it’s worth $5g’s, not many around, and I’m sure your local IH dealer( if any) threw out those parts guides years ago. I bet NAPA would have mechanical stuff, though, it was all off the shelf parts.
Our two Internationals ran very well. The v8 Loadstar came with a four barrel Holley and they are true and tried. I learned to use a two speed rear axle on that truck. It was very torquey and forgiving but four mpg loaded. If I recall correctly the six cylinder pickup we had when I was a kid had a single barrel, and it was easy starting and smooth enough that my mom had no trouble tooling around in it with us kids beside her.
Millions of kids got to school thanks to the Loadstar. They made a lousy dump truck motor, under full load and full throttle all day. The company I worked for replaced a 392 every season. So much so, IH couldn’t fill the demand and used AMC 401’s until supply caught up. The DT engines were a lot better.
As a retired IHC partsman, even the early trucks, as far back as the 1940’s are available online to dealers.
Not sure about the ones you’ve dealt with but my old man had a 70 1200 series 2wd auto that ran like a top. So many good memories of that ol binder. It would like to “diesel” in summer tho all you had to do was shut it off in gear no bigs.
Ok, I have yet another noob question – what’s with the spookiness regarding “red hose”? That’s about the 6th comment I’ve seen about the existence of one.
Thx
I am happy you had the guts to ask because I have wondered also but haven’t had the guts to ask LOL :)
It has no merit whatsoever,,,
I think it’s what’s referred to as a “meme.”
Someone commented on a red heater hose on a photo here a while back and thereby achieved a sort of faceless infamy. Red heater hoses work fine, just like stock black ones. But they aren’t stock. Thus, worthy of comment.
I think it’s because all FACTORY heater / radiator / vacuum hoses are black.
Yeah, but does “Red” = “bad”? Are we talking about a Wayne’s World moment? (“Stay away from the red rope liquorice”)
The moderator has mentioned a few times how out of place red hoses look in an old engine bay. So it has become a thing.
nice memories. My uncle won a 1970 International 1100D from Amoco gas in an Iowa statewide contest. fleetside, red, automatic, dont remember which V-8, with a set of Amoco whitewall tires that had two different sized stripes– think Dodge Dynasty. and to top it off, recycled studebaker wheelcovers without the S in the middle that IH used.. nice truck
by 1988 it had been in the weeds a few years, my uncle was driving a Dodge truck, and the 1967Chevy stepside with a 6 and three on the tree was still running. He gave the 67 to another uncle when he got the IH Uncle Harry bought a new 88 Chevy Cheyenne with the Silvarado grill and 4 headlights and the 67 went to a third uncle who drove it awhile
Red hose black hose jeez…get some fomoco blue hose it lasts forever almost
Fomoco=ford Motor company
It’s correctly spelled FoMoCo.
but we pronounce it “fomoco”
I remember as a youngster riding my bike to the local Co-Op, that also shared space with the International dealership… checking out the shiny new IH trucks and tractors, then playing around on the silos with my fellow ne’er-do-wells. I’ve always liked the styling and scarcity of the IH pick-ups and Travelalls.
They made great trucks and tractors. Most trucks were bullet proof were run into the ground. My great grandfathers 1939 model h still runs and has only had the motor rebuilt once in its whole life time. Still plows snow every winter and won’t quit. Corn binders are great but I am a little bias.
Last time I saw one here in Florida was 20, maybe 25 years ago. Its
owner lived just down the street.from.us and as I recall, he was selling
it because he couldn’t find parts to rebuild the 6 cylinder engine here.
Aside from being too loud and smoking like a chimney, that old beast
ran great! The owner said that the truck needed a complete overhaul
on the engine. He told me that nowhere in the state of Florida could
he find the parts to do the job. Sadly, what he told me may have been
true as the big auto parts stores only carried parts for Fords, Cheys,
Dodges, and Toyotas. If you had one of these or a Nissan pickup and
needed parts, you were pretty much screwed. Oh sure, we had some-
thing called the Internet, but only county and state employees were
able to get it. It wasn’t ’til about ’99 or 2000 that the average Floridian
had access to it. As for that truck, my late wife let out the biggest
“Noooo” I’d ever heard–even though I had access to a 302 Ford V-8
and a C-6 auto tranny to swap into it. A few years later, I ran into the
man that owned the truck I wanted to buy. He told me that he finally
sold it to his boss for $50 to use on his farm. Since then, I haven’t seen
another one. Would like to buy this truck so that I could see an IH
pickup every day–under my carport!
nation-wide (may B internationally) NAPA has all ways carried stuff for that truck (unto this very day even tho 48 yrs old). Even tho an auto prts place have ford/fordson/etc tractor prts and more…
Ck em out, must B around (Pierson to Tampa, Ft Laud to Cape Coral to Homestead’n everywhere in between). I use Tampa’n usually Northampton (in MA when up there).
Jeez he wasn’t very swift then . In the 70s IH used AMC 258 6 cylinder engines. You could get parts ANYWHERE. The 1960s IHs used their own engines and rebuild kits are still available. But you have to go to commercial industrial parts houses . People have to think TRUCK parts NOT discount CAR parts . I’m shaking my head in disbelief and I’m here to tell you IH engines are low RPM torque monsters NOT high RPM power houses that went 250.000 miles in the 60s when other low priced competitors were worn out at 100,000 . In 75 they used the AMC 401 when the engine plant went on strike and used the AMC V8 in the light line to supplement the shortfall . Average car guys don’t understand the nature of the IH engines (think severe duty industrial and NOT light duty automotive) . Pound for pound there was NO light duty V8 that could match it for consistent across the board durability . IH offered Lightline 2 4 speeds (one with a deep low 1st) 2 5 speeds (one with overdrive) a 3 speed and a 727 auto .
Pretty cool truck. I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a IH stepside truck. I thought Jeep trucks with sport side fenders were rare
I imported a one owner example,with a 6 cylinder engine,from California a few years ago.It was the most dreadful rotbox!It ended up in Italy,with a ground up rebuild!Why?I have a ’51 L112 which I have owned and loved for 27 years.
I had a ’72, same body, but mine was a more basic version with the 232 six and what I believe was a Powerglide – 2-speed automatic. It also had a solid leaf-sprung front axle. First load attempt was a rick of firewood, and a very scary ride home in a truck that had NO sense of direction! A set of 15″ radial take-offs from the 4-for-$125 store cured that, and gave the thing both a smoother ride and decent handling. I think it cost $350, plus another $250 for a non-cracked head and a rebuild; me and a much stronger friend had to do the installation.
I ran it more or less trouble-free for about three years, but then it took up overheating again about the time some jerk put a ball-bearing through the back glass. I sold it for $100 cash to some guy needing short-haul transport for his Christmas-tree business – it would go about twenty miles before boiling over.
Many years earlier I had helped a USAF buddy drive his new Travel-All from Seattle back up to Elmendorf AFB – that had the bigger six and automatic too – and it sold me on IHC trucks. Glad I had one, don’t need another, but hope this one gets taken care of and driven a lot.
These saw a lot of municipal use when I was growing up.
This post has brought back some memories!! The volunteer fire department of the small town that I grew up – Amherst, Ohio – had an International Harvester Pickup. It was a four-wheel drive fenderside. Not sure what series it was, though. They used it as a brush fire truck. “No. 55”. And the school district had many Loadstar 1600 & 1700 school buses, along with Chevy C60 buses.
I grew up with a new IH in our driveway every six months, My dad visited all the local dairy farmers here in and around Beaver Dam Wi. selling the great IH brand. As a kid I thought the 57 Golden Jubilee was sooo neat with its 54 Buick tail lights on a chrome slatherd fleet side box with two toned gold and white paint. It was their 50th anniversary and they had a true luxury pickup to do battle with the Chevy Cameo. Im the proud owner of this one for the last 15 years!
My 57 Golden Jubilee
My 57 Golden Jubilee!
it DOES challenge the Cameo.
Never saw 1, thanks glen.
In 1980 I did some work for an older gentleman hauling compost. He had one of the nicest IH pickups I ever saw. It had the big V-8, 5 speed, ice cold a/c etc. That thing would pull a load with ease. What a horse!