Nov 10, 2021  •  For Sale  •  11 Comments

Dusty 1979 Pontiac Firebird Formula 4-Speed

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There are certain questions that encourage the thinking soul to stop for a moment and plumb the depths of reason in search of an answer. What is the sound of one hand clapping? How many roads must a man walk down, before you call him a man? Is it really a proper 70s Firebird if it doesn’t have a screaming chicken on the hood? Sometimes, though, we are graced with a moment of sublime clarity, and where better to experience satori than behind the wheel of a 1979 Pontiac Firebird Formula? This example is located in Chicago, Illinois, far from its birthplace in sunny Los Angeles, and is listed here on Craigslist for $6,950. Many thanks to Kenneth Athon for the tip!

1979 was a special year for Pontiac for two reasons. First, it was the ten-year anniversary of the Trans Am, the top of the line for the Firebird. Second, due to dwindling reserves, it would be the last year that the Pontiac 400 cu.in. W72 V8 would be available. Being the more understated younger sibling of the Trans Am, very few Formulas were equipped with the W72– far more received the 301 cu.in. Pontiac V8. This is the engine installed in this car at the factory, though it was the L37, equipped with a four-barrel carburetor, and so was still a step up from the base engine for the Formula. Horsepower and torque just don’t compare, however: the L37 configuration produced 150hp at 4000 RPM and 240 lb.ft. of torque, compared to over 200 hp and 300 lb.ft. from the W72. But it is said that there is no replacement for displacement.

The underwhelming horsepower figures of the 4.9L engine don’t tell the whole story, though, since these are net rather than gross horses. And that power is routed, not through the Turbo 350, but a Borg Warner four-speed. The wheels are the optional cast-aluminum– Rally IIs were standard on both the Formula and the Trans Am– and they really suit the car. The seller states that while the car runs and drives, there are some problems with the brakes and it should really be trailered. Here’s hoping that the brake issues are a product of its long slumber and are a quick and easy fix.

The 1979 Formula isn’t a terribly rare car. Though it’s the least common Firebird for that year, over 24,000 of them were made. But it might be rare in this sort of garage-fresh condition. With the exception of a few missing trim pieces, even the interior might clean up nicely. Rust is evident along the door sills and the driver’s side rear quarter, but if this car spent any real time on the road in Chicago then the damage could be far worse. All together, this could make a nice winter project, and by the time Spring is sprung, the new owner can have the t-tops out, the music turned up, and the wheels rolling down some sunny back roads. All which sounds like a sure path to inner peace.

Comments

  1. Big_FunMember
    Nov 10, 2021 at 8:17am

    This Formula was featured here on October 20th; seller has dropped his asking price now

    https://barnfinds.com/dusty-1979-pontiac-firebird-formula-4-speed/

    I Still think the way to go is more Pontiac cubes under the hood, if one so desired.
    I should have asked before – is the transmission behind the 301 indentical to one behind a 400 in ’79? Or beefed up?

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    • Steve R
      Nov 11, 2021 at 12:37am

      It transmission should have different gear ratio with a much taller 1st gear to compensate for the lack of torque. It wouldn’t be optimal behind a larger engine.

      Steve R

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  2. 8banger 8bangerMember
    Nov 10, 2021 at 9:26am

    What’s the funny-looking canister on the L wheelhouse liner?

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    • Rik
      Nov 10, 2021 at 10:50am

      I think that’s a siren for an alarm system

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  3. wuzjeepnowsaab
    Nov 10, 2021 at 11:23am

    The TransAm was soooo overdone by this point it’s nice to see a buyer decided to skip the look. By 79, it was co-opted by the disco crowd so he was probably thinking “nope, not me”

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  4. Bick Banter
    Nov 10, 2021 at 1:34pm

    Whoever ordered this with a 4-speed did so for gas mileage. This was a slow heavy pooch with the 301.

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  5. ADM
    Nov 11, 2021 at 9:28am

    The W72’s were all made in ’77, and probably made about 260 net hp, based on acceleration times. These could make 60 mph in 6.5 seconds and the quarter mile in the high 14’s. One could argue that a ’79 with the W72, and only available with the four speed was, officially, “the last muscle car.”

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    • Dex
      Nov 11, 2021 at 6:39pm

      Car in the article is a 1979 Firebird Formula with a 301 engine, not the 1977 W72 that you seem to think it is. Just making things a little more clear for readers.

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  6. Johnny
    Nov 11, 2021 at 4:59pm

    I have a 77 with the 301 and automatic. Its a nice running -easy on gas car and has good pick up. This car looks like its had a door replace on the passenger side and on the rear–near the side marker light. Looks like it had been hit their too. I thought in 78 is when the firebird got ugly with the front end. I noticed the never took any good pictures of the dash or underneith. The question is why? The dash all busted up and alot of rust damage underneith the car. Why didn,t he clean it up some and it looks like parts of the air conditioner is missing.

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    • JoeMac JoeMac
      Nov 11, 2021 at 9:39pm

      Did you mean the front end got ugly in ’79? The ’78 was similar to the ’77.

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  7. joenywf64
    Nov 12, 2021 at 12:26am

    Maybe better to leave the typical browning letters on you know what “modern” tires alone – they match the body color …
    http://images.craigslist.org/00707_jgBJcSzznWHz_0CI0t2_1200x900.jpg

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