Aug 30, 2017  •  For Sale  •  69 Comments

Superbird? 1970 Plymouth Road Runner

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And I thought that the Pontiac GTO “The Judge” from back in April was in rough shape. Looking at that car now, it looks like it’s ready for Pebble Beach compared to this 1970 Plymouth Road Runner. This baby is listed on eBay with a current bid of just over $1,500. It’s in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania where you’ll have to contract with several steel mills to make sure that you have enough rolling stock to finish this project.

I keep seeing the General Lee in this car, and it looks like it’s even jumping another car in one of the photos.. or tried to jump one. It appears to be some other unusual paint / graphic scheme that’s ghosted in the paint. Or, what’s left of the paint. Is this, or could this even be a Superbird? Inquiring minds want to know. What are your thoughts just on what you see here so far? The seller says that it was originally an “EV2 Hemi Orange 440-6 Pack car, Super Trac Pac 4.10 Dana”, but they also mention Superbird in the listing. Is that a bait and switch sort of thing to draw viewers? Sort of like if I were to say, “Winning Powerball Numbers Here”? And, just for the record, if I won I’d share it with everyone here..

GAAA! From the last two photos I bet that you thought there was a slight chance of restoring this car. How about now? I don’t feel so bad about a couple of my cars now after seeing this hunk-o-.. somethin’. The first-generation Road Runner is the one to have, there is just no question about that; from 1968 to 1970. 1970 was the last year for the first-gen cars and it was also the year when buyers could check a few boxes and order a Superbird version of the Road Runner. The seller sort of takes a swing and a miss at the VIN because supposedly all of the numbers are missing. That’s never a good sign. Read the question and answer on the bottom of the eBay link for some info on that.

This is the closest thing that I could see as far as an interior photo goes, other than this one showing what I’m assuming is, was, or used to be the floors? In more of a Craigslist tradition of either not providing enough photos or providing horrible photos, this auction has plenty of both, if that makes sense. Not enough photos and what photos are there aren’t the best. But, hey, they already have $1,500 bid on this car and I wouldn’t take it if they gave it to me, shipped it for free, and then gave me $1,500 in cash. Someone sees value in this car and all kidding aside, there have to be quite a few parts and pieces on this rusty shell that make it worth it for the 8 or 9 bidders who have gone after this Road Runner so far.

Like interior photos, there isn’t one photo of the engine area. You didn’t expect to see an engine in here, I hope? There should be a 440 V8 with a 6-pack (three 2-barrel carburetors) under this crushed, rusty hood – one of three engines available for the 1970 Plymouth Superbird. The other two would be the 440 single 4-barrel, and the one that everyone wants and only 135 people ordered: the 426 Hemi. But, is this a Superbird? It must have lost all of its goodies (wing, nose cone, etc) if it is one, but I doubt it. It’s most likely just a good way to get people to view your auction. But, just give me a 1970 Road Runner with a 440 6-pack, I don’t need a Superbird!

Comments

  1. sir mike
    Aug 30, 2017 at 5:51am

    April Fools day already???

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  2. giorgitd
    Aug 30, 2017 at 5:51am

    The Lincoln Premier Capri is cringing to be listed next to this pile of rusty metal.

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  3. Mike Layton
    Aug 30, 2017 at 5:54am

    Even the dealer stripped Birds retained their wing supports and mounts in the trunk . See if they are still present or have been cut away .

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  4. Pookie Jamie P
    Aug 30, 2017 at 6:01am

    Mark Worman. Saves it!!!

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  5. Warren
    Aug 30, 2017 at 6:03am

    Junk, but I find some humor in sellers comment “If you have a sick family member that may take a turn for the worse, same thing, refrain from bidding.”

    Sold my 59 Edsel on EBay a few years back. Winning Bidder calls me and states that he could not complete the sale as his Wife “Took a turn for the worst”. Perhaps she did, but the next highest bidder was happy to buy the car!

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  6. Bob Hess
    Aug 30, 2017 at 6:09am

    Too bad the crusher broke so soon….

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  7. CCFisher
    Aug 30, 2017 at 6:26am

    It does appear to have the rear window plug used on the Superbird…. not that it matters at this stage of the car’s life.

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    • JunkFixer
      Aug 30, 2017 at 4:16pm

      Hemi brake booster as well.

      Like 2
  8. rustylink
    Aug 30, 2017 at 6:28am

    Theseus’s paradox, is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object.

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  9. leiniedude leiniedudeMember
    Aug 30, 2017 at 6:35am

    Window plug?

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    • Steve
      Aug 30, 2017 at 7:14am

      The superbird used a fiberglass “plug” to make the rear window flat for better aerodynamics. Take a look at photos of other roadrunners. they don’t have a rear window like this one does.

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      • leiniedude leiniedudeMember
        Aug 30, 2017 at 7:31am

        Hi Steve, thanks, I can see it now. A guy I know has owned a wing car for over 30 years. I ran into his BIL last week at the car show. He told me that his BIL is in rough shape and his daughter has no interest in the car at all. He also told me the owner is a hoarder and it is very hard to even see it in his garage. Thanks again Mike.

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      • Brian Crowe
        Aug 30, 2017 at 10:58am

        If the plug was fiberglass then why is this one rusted right threw?

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    • ThomasL
      Aug 30, 2017 at 7:23am

      Roadrunners had a concave rear window. In order to make the car more aerodynamic, a window plug was installed to allow a flush rear window. Plymouth did not take much care in smoothing out the bodywork around the plug, which is why all street Superbirds were sold with vinyl tops. Those tops covered the rough welds.

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  10. Jeffro
    Aug 30, 2017 at 6:41am

    Only way this will ever be a driveable car again, is to melt it down and use the metal in another car.

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    • Fred W.
      Aug 30, 2017 at 7:16am

      Not enough metal left for that to happen.

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      • bruce baker
        Nov 12, 2018 at 1:40am

        Ha, ha, you’re right. But maybe there’s just enough metal for a smart car.

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  11. Rhett
    Aug 30, 2017 at 6:41am

    It’s a ‘bird, and those windshield moldings alone are likely worth half the asking price anyway

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  12. 68 custom
    Aug 30, 2017 at 6:44am

    looks like an expensive lawn ornament at this point, to bad the window plug makes me think it may have been the real thing. did mopar make a Plymouth equivalent of the charger 500?

    Like 1
    • Johnny the mailman B
      Aug 30, 2017 at 3:32pm

      Plymouth allegedly took Superbirds that didn’t sell and turned them back into Roadrunners by removing the wing and nose cone/front clip…I have never seen one in person or in any book though…

      Like 3
  13. 3457fl
    Aug 30, 2017 at 6:45am

    Bet all the Vin numbers were applied to another one years ago.

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    • John T
      Aug 30, 2017 at 7:01am

      The only way this could be worth anything near $1500 is if it still has all the VIN number plates on it to be applied to another Mopar.

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    • The Walrus
      Aug 30, 2017 at 7:08am

      My thoughts exactly. Without them this car has no value to restore.

      Like 3
      • Ronnie Gentry
        Aug 30, 2017 at 8:21am

        This car want even make it on a donors list nothing there

        Like 1
  14. Cary Robinson
    Aug 30, 2017 at 6:59am

    it appears to have the correct Superbird parts, it has the rear window plug (which reduces the size of the back window and is only on the Superbird) it also has the wide A pillar trim which is super bird only and the front fender thats still on it appears to be a correct Superbird fender

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    • 68 custom
      Aug 30, 2017 at 9:05am

      plus Daytona and Charger 500 in reference to rear window plug.

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  15. jdjonesdr
    Aug 30, 2017 at 7:02am

    No mention of whether the engine turns over. Don’t see an A/C compressor either or a power steering pump.

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  16. Steve
    Aug 30, 2017 at 7:17am

    Looks like a superbird to me. Good project for Graveyard Carz. He rebuilt a 440 +6 cuda that was wadded up as bad or worse than this one, just to prove it could be done.The superbird used a fiberglass “plug” to make the rear window flat for better aerodynamics. Take a look at photos of other roadrunners. they don’t have a rear window like this one does.Also, regular roadrunners didn’t have the stainless deflectros on the a pillars like this one does.

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  17. glen
    Aug 30, 2017 at 7:27am

    He says no numbers or title available, but a vin is provided in the listing, huh? What is salvageable from this? Looking at the first photo, the car looks bent, this is a mess.

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    • CATHOUSE
      Aug 30, 2017 at 8:24am

      If you read the questions asked section on the ebay listing the seller says he lifted a VIN from another auction. Not something that I would have done, but I am not the seller. My question is how does the seller know how the car was equipped if all the numbers and tags are gone? It would make a pretty neat piece of yard art if you have a Mopar restoration shop.

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      • glen
        Aug 30, 2017 at 8:51am

        Thanks Cathouse, I usually read them. So where is the proof that this is what he claims, sounds like he’s making the whole thing up.

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  18. Blaine
    Aug 30, 2017 at 7:34am

    Serial number is stamped in rear trunk gutter on drivers side.. ya have to roll the trunk seal rubber up to see it

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    • Steve
      Aug 30, 2017 at 2:45pm

      Would be cool to find that serial number, and see where “that” car is now.

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      • Dave Wright
        Aug 31, 2017 at 10:50am

        Multiple cars being registered with the same serial number is not uncommon. There are 3 Mercedes 1958 220s cars registered here in Idaho with the same vin as mine……the dummy’s used the model number as a vin when they were first registered. Obviously, there are no checks to prevent it. A Lein sale on the vin……you will have a good title and off you go.

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  19. Howard A Howard AMember
    Aug 30, 2017 at 7:38am

    7,800 original miles,,,hey, why not?? Only shows how desperate the hobby is, that someone is actually going to buy this. Maybe they need the “Plymouth” letters on the back. Unbelievable.

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    • Superdessucke
      Aug 30, 2017 at 11:52am

      5 or 6 digit odometer? Somebody check the pedals for wear.

      Like 3
  20. Paul
    Aug 30, 2017 at 7:54am

    lol!!!

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  21. 86 Vette Convertible
    Aug 30, 2017 at 8:13am

    Save the passenger window glass and replace everything else (assuming that’s someone’s intentions). Unless there’s some rare part that’s unseen, don’t see anything else salvageable here.

    Like 1
    • bruce baker
      Nov 12, 2018 at 2:21am

      I was thinking that right door plus glass might be worth a $150oo.

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  22. Ralph
    Aug 30, 2017 at 8:43am

    Superrusty….Superbent…..Supershady……Superscrap…..Superpass…..

    Really, if this was 10-15 years ago, he would probably get $10K for it back when every dummy with money was “”Moparcrazy” and people were getting $300k for Hemi clones, but the bloom has long since been off that rose……

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  23. Dave Mikulec
    Aug 30, 2017 at 9:05am

    This nonsense is getting out of hand.

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  24. sparkster
    Aug 30, 2017 at 10:54am

    Was this in the same lake as the 1925 Bugatti ?

    Like 4
  25. VR LIVES
    Aug 30, 2017 at 2:34pm

    After seeing that Titanic wannabe, I think I need a tetanus shot.

    Like 3
  26. Chebby
    Aug 30, 2017 at 2:44pm

    It’s been junk for years, the real qestion is how has it hung around this long?

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  27. James
    Aug 30, 2017 at 2:51pm

    I agree. Real bird with some real Superbird parts remaining. Shame.

    Like 2
  28. elmer
    Aug 30, 2017 at 3:18pm

    you can buy it and put the vin’s on another car, oh wait somebody already did……….there goes my 100k idea

    Like 4
  29. Robert peterson
    Aug 30, 2017 at 4:14pm

    That’s the most expensive passenger side window I ever saw it’s up to 2551 on e bay and they want $5000

    Like 2
  30. XMA0891
    Aug 30, 2017 at 4:29pm

    I’ve looked at A LOT of Mopar “For Sale” ads in my day, and, that I can recall, have only seen one in worse shape.
    What ever it is, I know if this were mine, I’d have to pay someone big bucks – To haul it away.

    Like 2
  31. Del
    Aug 30, 2017 at 4:31pm

    Looks like a graveyards cars special. Anything can be rebuilt with enought cash thrown at it

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  32. Harvey Peever
    Aug 30, 2017 at 5:31pm

    The only thing I can think of is the seller attempting not to laugh his butt off as the buyer hands over the money and he hands over the …..

    Like 2
  33. Steve
    Aug 30, 2017 at 5:42pm

    Is this one of those ads for “Your brain on crack”?

    Like 3
  34. Norm
    Aug 30, 2017 at 7:00pm

    You don’t see them in this condition come along often . I wouldn’t restore this . I would drive this as is and preserve it . They are only original once !

    Like 7
    • bruce baker
      Nov 12, 2018 at 2:28am

      Yeah a 3 wheel Mopar.

      Like 1
  35. GPMember
    Aug 30, 2017 at 7:12pm

    Over 3000.00. So in the seventy’s, You could buy these cars and cars like them, Put them in a field and salt them on a regular base’s and still get your money back. No gain but no pain.

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    • Dave Wright
      Aug 31, 2017 at 10:43am

      Just shows how different the money is.

      Like 0
  36. PAPERBKWRITER
    Aug 30, 2017 at 7:59pm

    Too many restoration programs on TV. People think junk iron is gold…If it is, it’s fools gold.

    Like 4
  37. billy
    Aug 30, 2017 at 9:26pm

    And to think, I PAID to have my 70 hauled away and crushed because it had 130K miles on it and a bad tranny! Only had rust at the bottom of the rear quarters, an acceptable paint job, and a near mint interior, plus mine even came with an engine under the hood! Oh but how times have changed from 1980!

    Like 2
  38. Keith Keith
    Aug 30, 2017 at 9:50pm

    If this car was a Porsche it would be worth 30k!………..LOL!

    Like 1
  39. DavidLMember
    Aug 30, 2017 at 10:52pm

    C’mon guys. Let’s not be so negative. Are we a flask half full or a flask half empty bunch of guys. I see potential here. I think it cries out for Rat Rod treatment! A couple cans of clear coat to preserve the ‘patina’, a few lengths of chain to hold the loose parts down and some sort of rigged up spoiler. I’m sure one of us has an extra engine behind the garage that we could put in it … Wait a minute. Let me look at the pictures again. Forget it. Crush that pile of rust.

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  40. Rolf Poncho 455
    Aug 30, 2017 at 11:26pm

    I agree to all the negativity on this mopar
    no vin no cash it’s scrap metal

    Like 2
  41. Pa Tina
    Aug 31, 2017 at 9:29am

    Direct correlation between the size of the scrap pile and the number of comments. See? I just proved my point. We are one step away from postings of the crushed cubes at the recycle yards

    Like 3
  42. The Real Diesel Dick
    Aug 31, 2017 at 11:00am

    Super Bird? More like Super Bent?

    Like 1
  43. Car Guy
    Aug 31, 2017 at 6:41pm

    “I’ll buy that for a dollar.” I could make a profit at the metal recycling…….maybe

    Like 2
  44. Dt 1
    Sep 1, 2017 at 7:24am

    You would have to pay me to take that car

    Like 2
  45. leiniedude leiniedudeMember
    Sep 1, 2017 at 7:33am

    Winning bid:US $3,551.00
    [ 27 bids ] WOW!

    Like 3
    • Robert peterson
      Sep 1, 2017 at 3:19pm

      I agree

      Like 1
  46. bob
    Sep 1, 2017 at 10:06pm

    pure junk.
    this tells you that the end of “barn finds” is near. nobody in their right mind would buy the car.

    Like 2
  47. Chuck
    Sep 4, 2017 at 9:31pm

    Wicked pissa yard art, I have to have this!!!!!!

    Like 1
  48. Rick
    Sep 5, 2017 at 11:14am

    There’s five different places a VIN appears on this car! This isn’t the Kennedy assasination! Ask the seller to confirm matching locations or walk away!

    Like 3

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