Mar 8, 2021  •  For Sale  •  13 Comments

Pool Deck Find! 1970 Pontiac Grand Prix

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The venerable Grand Prix name has graced many fine cars from deceased brand Pontiac – there have also been a few clunkers too. But of the GP versions, the ’69-’70 are hands down, my favorite. And finding one poolside is a little unusual, except that it is located in Miami Gardens, Florida, so maybe it’s not that odd. This 1970 Grand Prix Model J is available, here on craigslist for $3,500.

The ’70 Grand Prix was built on a G-Body platform which is really a stretched A-Body chassis, the one that underpinned the ’70 GTO. How stretched? The Goat rode on a 112″ wheelbase, vs. the GP’s 118″ reach but the suspension is basically the same. While the all-new ’69 Grand Prix was a sales smash with 112K units finding new homes, the essentially identical 1970 version cooled its heels a bit with only 65K copies rolling off of Pontiac’s assembly lines – nevertheless, 65K is still a stout number.

The seller claims that this Grand Prix spent years in a Georgia field and it has needs such as, “restoration, trunk, rear sail, and passenger side floor patch welding“. The steel body panels are pretty straight but rust, surface and otherwise, is rather obvious. And, back to the A/G-Body frame, they are susceptible to rot so it would not be a surprise to find a problem there as well. One item to note is the roof, this GP appears to have not had a vinyl roof covering which was typical for this generation, and that omitted option may well have saved the roof panel’s integrity. Unfortunately, the same can’t be said for the dutchman panel ahead of the trunk lid as it is pretty well corroded. The seller notes that he spent more on the Pontiac Rally II wheels and tires than he’s asking for the car – seems like an overly expensive addition and an odd place to start on a refurbishment.

Under that enormous hood is Poncho power in the form of a 350 HP, 400 CI V8 engine, attached to a Turbo-Hydramatic 400, three-speed automatic transmission. The owner claims, “Car runs very strong“. The mileage is listed as 39K miles and the seller adds, “The odometer reads a little over 39,000. I don’t know if that’s true because the carfax does not go back that far. I do have a VIN audit, but it does not have mileage. I tend to believe the mileage based on the gas pedal, brake pedal, the way doors open and close, the way windows go up and down…” I obviously can’t review this Pontiac in person but 39K original miles seems highly unlikely.

The fantastic Grand Prix interior is pretty well grand trashed. The seats are shot and the missing carpet does reveal the poor condition of the floors. The door cards, however, have fared a bit better but there is an image of a proposed patch panel for the passenger’s footwell that looks haphazard. Unfortunately, there are no included images of the instrument panel.

The seller suggests that this GP may be worth twice his asking price in parts. Maybe, maybe not, the prevailing question is probably more along the lines of what it will take to return this GP to its former glory. This is not a GTO and won’t command a GTO price, but it is the next best thing from Pontiac in my mind. It deserves to be saved but the next owner will have their work cut out for themselves – let’s hope that it lives on, right?

Comments

  1. Mitchell GildeaMember
    Mar 8, 2021 at 6:36pm

    Why am I not surprised that a Grand Prix found on a pool deck is located in Florida?

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  2. Steve BushMember
    Mar 8, 2021 at 9:10pm

    One of my favorite cars ever; a 1969 Grand Prix SJ with a 428-370 was my first car in 1977. Unfortunately, this one probably isn’t worth the trouble. A couple very nice ones with the 428, air and pw featured here that went for $15-20k seemed to be much better deals.

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  3. Steve R
    Mar 8, 2021 at 10:17pm

    This looks like a parts car. Nearly 40 years sitting in a field must have done wonders to the undercarriage, even more so than the sun baked interior. There aren’t enough good parts to justify the asking price, the suggestion that he spent more than $3,500 on a set of Rally II’s and no name radials is laughable at face value.

    Steve R

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    • Clement
      Mar 11, 2021 at 6:52am

      Agreed. 👍

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  4. Keith
    Mar 9, 2021 at 5:17am

    Keep looking for a good one not enough repo parts to put this back together.I bet the underneath is worse then the flints stone mobile.

    Like 5
  5. Steve Clinton
    Mar 9, 2021 at 10:00am

    It could be worse…it could have been a ‘bottom of the pool find’.

    Like 6
  6. Patrick Curran
    Mar 9, 2021 at 10:00am

    Always went nuts over 69-72 GP’s, particularly the SJ’s. This one is unfortunately a parts car at best.

    Like 4
  7. Arby
    Mar 9, 2021 at 11:19am

    Been a long while since this Prix was Grand…

    Like 7
  8. Jeremy
    Mar 9, 2021 at 11:32am

    I had a 1970 dark green with darker green vinyl top. Mine had a 455-c.i. engine with TH400 transmission. It was a runner. Some unique features of these cars: antenna in the windshield, wrap-around dash for the “cockpit” feel, 8-track player in the back seat, coil-springs all around with anti-sway bars front and back.

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  9. TIMOTHY FAIRCHILD
    Mar 9, 2021 at 1:00pm

    To all concerned. If it runs well motor and trans may be worth 200.00 bucks, but I think the rest needs to be put out of it’s misery. And this was my dad’s first hot rod bought brand new in 69.

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    • Jim ODonnellAuthor
      Mar 9, 2021 at 1:30pm

      Timothy:

      Thanks for commenting. I (we at Barn Finds) always look for salvation in every car that we encounter – yours is a judgment call as it could probably go either way. That said, you would know best. There is definitely value in a running Pontiac 400 CI engine and a T-400 automatic transmission (along with your wheels).

      JO

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    • Steve R
      Mar 9, 2021 at 1:46pm

      Running 1970 Pontiac 400’s with all its accessories haven’t been selling for $200 for a couple of decades, even without a functioning TH400. This engine/transmission combination, sold as a non-running core would likely get $500-600.

      Steve R

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  10. John Oliveri
    Mar 9, 2021 at 4:18pm

    We had one when I was a kid, 69 Model J, 400 motor power windows stereo radio, 8 track couldn’t fit anywhere but behind the console , this is a rough car, there are not a lot of parts reproduced, though more for this than my 73, which I love but am upside down in forever, buy a cleaner one, if you find a 428 grab it

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