Oct 30, 2024  •  For Sale  •  21 Comments

Matching Numbers: 1970 Porsche 911

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You can’t blame someone for trying to get a higher sale price. I used to feel compelled to let someone know that I felt they were asking criminal amounts of money for a basketcase, but thankfully realized there were better uses of my time. Still, when you see some cars that priced higher than what the market will likely bear, it does feel like the right time for a public service announcement. This 1970 Porsche 911 listed here on eBay is a desirable model and year with a claimed numbers matching drivetrain, but the bodywork needs are extensive.

Then, there’s the asking price: $12,000. Now, the air-cooled 911 market is hot, no doubt. The recent auction of Rudi Klein’s “junkyard” showed that enthusiasts will pay eye-watering amounts for heavily damaged and used-up 911s and 356s. Still, there was some helpful hysteria in the room at that auction after it was hyped up for months beforehand. Selling a car of any kind in similar condition outside of that fever-pitch environment can yield much different results, along with the fact that most of those lots started with no reserve. Looking at a project like this and dropping $12K before you even begin can definitely be sobering.

As you can see above, the floors are completely gone, and rust is extensive throughout the car. Still, there’s very real value in finding an aircooled 911 with a complete matching-numbers engine and transmission. The seller also has a clean and clear title. So, that’s one advantage over the cars from the recent California junkyard auction, as many of those did not have drivetrains and / or were lacking paperwork. There’s no doubt the seller is planning to entice an aircooled fanatic into taking this project on solely on the basis of the matching numbers and clean paper trail.

While worst cars have been restored, the decision to pursue restoration likely stemmed from a different era not to long ago where buyers were obsessed with finding a 911 for a project in order to avoid the six-figure point of entry for a finished car. So, upon seeing the obvious bodywork needs this 911 has, which includes visible holes in the body below the rear window, one has to wonder if the current environment would discourage someone from taking a chance on putting a car like this back on the road at the current asking price. The seller has dropped the price once already from $14,000, and I suspect more massaging is going to be necessary.

Comments

  1. bobhess bobhessMember
    Oct 30, 2024 at 6:38am

    With that much rust everywhere the cost to rebuild this car is going to exceed any value applied to it when finished.

    Like 17
  2. Fahrvergnugen FahrvergnugenMember
    Oct 30, 2024 at 6:58am

    Previously registered as Bo Tanker. Just add the chain.

    Like 4
  3. Big C
    Oct 30, 2024 at 8:17am

    I was sure this heap was listed by Beverly Hills Car Club, as an “intriguing project.”

    Like 4
  4. Bullethead
    Oct 30, 2024 at 8:44am

    Florida? Saltwater flooded, probably from Hurricane Ian. Nope.

    Like 5
  5. Dave
    Oct 30, 2024 at 8:57am

    Hokey Smokey! Parts only?

    Like 4
  6. John EderMember
    Oct 30, 2024 at 9:13am

    Porsche patina perfected.

    Like 4
  7. James
    Oct 30, 2024 at 9:16am

    More like “Bay Find”

    Like 7
  8. @ C
    Oct 30, 2024 at 9:40am

    All original. The only modification is that Louisiana license plate attached to the lid. If Amos Moses (Jerry Reed -1970, RCA Records) hunted alligators with a 911, this was it.

    Like 0
  9. Rich Kennedy
    Oct 30, 2024 at 10:29am

    Parts being as expensive as they are, would a numbers matching drivetrain dropped in a more plausible project be a valid consideration?

    Like 1
  10. Martin Horrocks
    Oct 30, 2024 at 11:35am

    It’s not crazy. Either someone sees value or they don’t. Paying $7K or $12K will make no difference to the final outcome here.

    Like 4
    • oldrodderMember
      Oct 30, 2024 at 2:56pm

      I disagree, it is crazy. Personally, I don’t think it is worth much at all. If someone sees 7 to 12K when they look at this car then, as BB King says, all I can do is wish them well. Any attempt to save this thing will be a long, bumpy journey indeed.

      Like 1
      • Frog
        Oct 31, 2024 at 7:19am

        I believe that was Bill Withers song. Never the less you’re right. I guess it’s money better spent than gambling.

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  11. Jack Quantrill
    Oct 30, 2024 at 11:39am

    Whoever let this car get this bad deserves a special seat in hell, 13 th level, Nixon Wing!

    Like 6
  12. Bruno
    Oct 30, 2024 at 11:44am

    We therefore commit his body to the deep, to be turned into corruption

    Like 1
  13. Mike Hawke
    Oct 30, 2024 at 12:22pm

    It’ll buff out.

    Like 8
  14. Courtney H.
    Oct 30, 2024 at 12:55pm

    Wow! That “Faux Patina” technique, is seeing some impressive advancements.

    Like 1
  15. Pat P.
    Oct 30, 2024 at 7:39pm

    “Yeah, it just washed up on the beach, I bet I could get 10 grand for it!”

    Like 1
  16. oldrodderMember
    Oct 31, 2024 at 11:59am

    Frog: While Bill Withers had two great songs, (Lean on Me and Ain’t no Sunshine), the verse that I referenced is from “The thrill is Gone” by BB King. Both great artists. Certainly, much better than this car.

    Like 2
    • Frog
      Nov 1, 2024 at 7:52am

      Oldrodder,
      I guess I wasn’t paying that close attention to the verse in BB Kings song. Bill Withers had a song titled I wish you well which is worth a listen to.

      Like 1
  17. PRA4SNW PRA4SNWMember
    Nov 1, 2024 at 7:30am

    It has become apparent that not a single roached out Porsche has ever been crushed.

    Like 1
  18. Mark
    Nov 1, 2024 at 10:04am

    WOW matching numbers Maybe need a matching parts car!!!

    Like 1

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