Mar 15, 2020  •  For Sale  •  19 Comments

Fire Fighter: 1963 International Scout

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Okay, hands up all of you who wanted to be a fire-fighter when you were a child. You can tell me. No-one is looking. Many a small child was attracted to the idea of riding around in a shiny red truck, and some people have never grown out of this concept. For them, the whole idea of owning their own classic fire-fighting appliance has its attractions, but the thought of trying to maintain a heavy tanker or a heavy pumper is way too daunting. Well, fear not, because this 1963 International Harvester Scout might offer a really viable alternative. It has a history on the front-line, but it has been beautifully restored and has a mere 9,132 genuine miles on the clock. It also should be an easy vehicle for an enthusiast to maintain. If you would love to have the opportunity to realize that childhood dream, then you will find the Scout located in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, and listed for sale here on Craigslist. The owner has set the sale price for the Scout at $23,500. I do have to say thank you to Barn Finder Levi A for referring the Scout through to us.

The first thing that I would like to clear-up with the Scout is the year designation. The owner lists it as a 1963 model, but then states that it was built and commissioned in 1962. The sliding side windows certainly gel with this being a 1962 Scout, as this was a feature that was standard on the Scout through until the early months of 1962. The Scout saw active duty with the Mineral Springs, North Carolina, Volunteer Fire Department from 1962 until it was retired in 1993. Upon its decommissioning, it was bought by the then Brigade Chief with a view to it being restored. This work stalled due to ill health, with the current owner purchasing the vehicle and completing the restoration in 2016. This work mainly centered around an external cosmetic refresh, and the results are pretty impressive. Having spent its life stored indoors, it is no real surprise to learn that the vehicle is rust-free. The panels are very straight, while the paint has a great shine to it. The vehicle was designed and built by W.S. Darley of Chicago, Illinois, for tackling brush and grass fires, and it retains all of the equipment that would have been required to perform this work when it was in active service. Unlike the heavy appliances, maintaining the equipment on this vehicle should be relatively straightforward. W.S. Darley has been involved in building fire appliances for more than a century, and continue in the industry to this day. That means that they could potentially be a good source for any spare parts that might be required in the future.

The interior of any fire-fighting appliance is a utilitarian and hard-wearing environment, and the interior of the Scout is no exception. The very nature of the work involved means that dirt, mud, ash, and soot are all going to find their way inside the vehicle on plenty of occasions, so everything needs to be robust, and relatively water-resistant. With that in mind, you get vinyl on the seat, rubber mats on the floors, and plenty of painted surfaces. The restoration of the Scout was focused on the exterior, so the interior is essentially as it was when the vehicle was decommissioned in 1993. The seat cover shows some stretching, but that’s really about the only criticism that can be leveled against the interior. The rest of it looks neat and tidy, and all of the original switches and controls for the fire-fighting equipment remain in place and are clearly labeled.

Powering the Scout is a 152ci 4-cylinder engine. Backing this is a 3-speed manual transmission with dual-range 4-wheel-drive capabilities. Fire-fighting appliances are not renowned for clocking huge mileage during their active life, and this particular one is showing 9,132 miles on its odometer. The owner states that these are original, and I see no reason to doubt him on that. With 92hp on tap, the vehicle is not going to be particularly fast, but once it is in low-range 4WD on a fire-ground, that’s where it would come into its own. One huge positive with these sorts of vehicles is that when they are in active service, they are maintained to the highest standards. This is essential because the last thing that any fire-fighter wants is for their vehicle to suffer a mechanical failure when a rapid retreat from an advancing wall of flame is required. Today, this old classic no longer faces flames, but it does see use in parades and shows.

This 1962 Scout is a great old vehicle, and even if you leave aside its history, finding a Scout of this vintage with 9,000 miles on the odometer has to be a rare treat. Its overall condition makes it even more special. When I was a child I had a pedal car. Mine was a Murray Fire Truck, and I really loved it. Today, I still harbor a desire to own a vintage fire-fighting appliance, and I have to say that I find this to be a really attractive vehicle. My wife is a fire-fighter, but I’m pretty sure that if I brought this home, then I would be in a whole world of trouble. So please, someone buy this old classic and save me from my wife.

Comments

  1. Howard A Howard AMember
    Mar 15, 2020 at 7:09am

    Not me. Firefighters run in, I run out. We’ve seen these before, many large factories had these for personal use. I’m mileage is surely correct, might have a million engine hours from idling, though. While vintage Scouts led a rough life, few remain and one would be tempted to discard all the equipment ( that must weigh a ton) just to get a Scout in this condition, but in a more practical way, keep it as is for this years pending brush fires. If you think this year will be any different than previous years, you’re mistaken. Could save the farm, it could. Great find.

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    • angliagt angliagtMember
      Mar 15, 2020 at 7:28pm

      But that’s the coolest thing about being a firefighter!
      There’s nothing cooler than having the nozzle,& being the first in.

      This was probably a “brush rig”,used to get into areas
      that an engine can’t.

      Like 7
  2. Kenbone
    Mar 15, 2020 at 10:06am

    I run out too! What a beauty tho ,so many of these just rusted out so bad so fast.

    Like 3
  3. J Andrews
    Mar 15, 2020 at 10:12am

    The 4 cylinder described in the text looks more like a V8 to me.

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    • Kelly g
      Mar 15, 2020 at 2:57pm

      The commanche slant four was basically one bank of the 304 V8

      Like 9
      • Little_Cars
        Mar 16, 2020 at 12:03pm

        Would the Comanche callout on the valve cover be applied crooked like that from the factory?

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      • Off Duty FF
        Mar 16, 2020 at 2:53pm

        My commanche 1969 Scout was a Straight up 4cyl.
        My Later 1970 was an AMC slant 6

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  4. F Again
    Mar 15, 2020 at 10:13am

    Had a fire last year that totalled a client car, and very nearly took out my shop as well. The local VFD saved the day. Man, I would have given all to have this little guy nearby.

    Like 5
  5. Classic Steel
    Mar 15, 2020 at 10:50am

    This is a real beauty and it hopefully gets preserved . I would store the fire fighter items and remove from bed.

    I really do ❤️ the Scout!

    I am surprised Mineral Springs isn’t grabbing this one or a local business as its a great tribute to their neighborhood.

    Like 2
  6. local_sheriff
    Mar 15, 2020 at 10:54am

    Sweet little fire truck – but such a WIMPY beacon!! Needs to be replaced with a Beacon Ray ASAP!

    Like 1
    • Mike Brown
      Mar 17, 2020 at 6:51pm

      And a Q siren.

      Like 1
  7. Weasel
    Mar 15, 2020 at 11:16am

    For those who despise the red hoses, look at the pictures of the engine on this one. I didn’t know they made Them THAT big in red.

    Like 2
  8. Fireman DK
    Mar 15, 2020 at 2:58pm

    When I grow up I want to be a Garbage man ! They get to go home early and find cool stuff ! That is a sweet little rig ! Sometimes I wish I never sold my 37 Seagrave, but where do you park a 23 foot Fire Engine when you live in a Mobile Home and overseas part of the time ?

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  9. FordGuy1972 FordGuy1972Member
    Mar 15, 2020 at 3:24pm

    The condition of this old Scout is outstanding and with only 9,000 miles on the clock, it will be a long time before you have to re-build anything. While it will certainly appeal to the firefighter crowd, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next owner removes the equipment from the bed and enjoys the Scout as it was intended to be used. That’s what I’d do, anyway. This one is probably the nicest one you’ll ever find so the price is probably fair.

    Like 4
  10. petemcgee
    Mar 16, 2020 at 8:48am

    I’ve owned the 4 cyl “1/2 a V8” Scouts in the past. Probably one of the slowest vehicles on the planet – sure to incite road rage from any soccer Mom SUV or Bro Truck kid behind you in traffic…..great for parades and car shows though.

    Like 3
  11. Lance G Nord
    Mar 16, 2020 at 9:16am

    I wish I had crazy money laying around. I would buy this vehicle and loan it to the IH Scout, Truck & Tractor Museum. This vehicle needs to be preserved rather than dismembered.

    Like 5
    • Mr.BZ
      Mar 16, 2020 at 12:22pm

      Agreed, Lance! Why throw away this piece of history?

      Like 0
  12. Moe Jim Fitzhugh
    Mar 16, 2020 at 3:27pm

    A buddy of mine a retired firefighter.
    When those guys are sittin at the station. They are maintaining there equipment.
    This Scout has seen alot of love.
    I agree this should go in IH museum.

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  13. Karl
    Mar 16, 2020 at 4:06pm

    This really is a beautiful little rig as far as the slant 4 goes I would keep this classy rig exactly as it is as far as the impatient soccer mom’s go I could care a less about their problems! I do like this IHC very much!

    Like 1

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