Feb 17, 2023  •  For Sale  •  40 Comments

Factory Air Conditioning! 1947 Frazer Manhattan

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One output of the Kaiser-Frazer merger in 1946-47 was the Manhattan, a top-of-the-line luxury car that led the Frazer brand. The Frazer name would disappear in the early 1950s and – soon thereafter – the company focused its attention on making Jeeps after acquiring Willys-Overland. This ’47 Manhattan spent the last 30 years in storage and is in good, non-running shape overall. And it has rare factory air conditioning, too! Located in Sussex, New Jersey, the post-war find is available here on eBay for $4,650 or you can make an offer.

Kaiser-Frazer Corp. was the result of a partnership between industrialist Henry J. Kaiser and automobile executive Joseph W. Frazer. Through their combination, the Frazer brand would be their flagship line of upper-medium-priced American luxury automobiles. Frazers (including the Manhattan) were designed by famed stylist Howard “Dutch” Darrin and won the Fashion Academy of New York Gold Medal for design achievement. The high-end Manhattan debuted in early 1947.

Frazer automobiles aren’t a common sight after more than 70 years. At the peak, they represented only 1.5% of the total post-war production when people were scooping up new cars left and right. The seller’s machine was likely a stately-looking machine back in its day. Not much history is revealed about this survivor which managed to log in 87,000 miles before going into hibernation.

We’re told the flathead 6-cylinder turns by hand, so there’s hope for the motor. But the starter is amiss and will need either rebuilding or replacement. As was common in those days, a column-shifted 3-speed manual transmission is present, and you can take it through the gears manually while stationary. The blue paint was reapplied some years ago, has a fair amount of patina today, and rust doesn’t seem to be anything more than a formality on the body. This looks like a solid and rare car to bring back to life!

Comments

  1. Rex Kahrs Rex KahrsMember
    Feb 14, 2023 at 7:14pm

    So, Russ, what years was the Kaiser Manhattan produced? I’ve never heard of a Frazer Manhattan, only a Kaiser Manhattan.

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    • Russ Dixon Russ DixonAuthor
      Feb 14, 2023 at 7:42pm

      From what I found online it was a Frazer made by Kaiser-Frazer from 1947-51.

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      • Charles Leonard Coker
        Feb 18, 2023 at 7:43pm

        no factory air conditioning on this car.

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      • Doc Gibson
        Feb 20, 2023 at 6:33pm

        Hello,. My family gifted me a 1953 Kaiser Manhattan to use to learn how to drive with. I drove that Manhattan until I left High School in 1968. I wish I still had that flat head 6. It was a reliable car and was the easiest car to work on. I was hospitalized in 1969 and when I got out my mother had sold it. I have been trying to forgive her ever sense
        Then.
        I never saw it again. That car is still one of the best I have ever had. I still have dreams about it. It was a big loss,. I turn 73 in a week and I look forward to some sweet dreams.
        Robert Doc Gibson
        [email protected]

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    • CCFisher
      Feb 18, 2023 at 9:30am

      The Manhattan was the high-end Frazer until the Frazer was discontinued after 1951. From 1952 until the end, the Manhattan was a Kaiser.

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      • 370zpp 370zpp
        Feb 19, 2023 at 6:47pm

        So that means that at the end of 1951, these words were spoken; (wait, here it comes) “Frazer has left the building”.

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  2. Howard A Howard A ( since 2014)Member
    Feb 16, 2023 at 5:32am

    This car was featured last Dec. for a larger sum. To be clear, and a K-F expert may correct me, I don’t think it’s an air conditioner as we know it. It’s merely a fresh air heater, which was new at the time, and did “condition the air”, just not cool it. I can’t find anywhere on any K-F option list, a/c was offered. I don’t see any evidence in the engine compartment, anyone?
    If there ever was a “generic” car, this was it, and I read, people loved them. Simple, cheap( $1800 new) can you imagine, when this was good enough? Snowballs chance in Hades of anything happening to it. Sorry, it’s not 1947 anymore.

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    • duaney
      Feb 18, 2023 at 9:43am

      Kaiser _Frazer just used the nomenclature, “Air Conditioner”, for the factory heater.

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  3. John Cargill
    Feb 17, 2023 at 9:55pm

    My dad bought a blue 1947 Frazer new. There’s a fascinating you tuber who drove a Frazer daily for years look up Cold War Motors.

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    • Martin
      Feb 18, 2023 at 12:16am

      He still drives it pretty regularly.

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      • Paolo
        Feb 18, 2023 at 6:24am

        He bought another one,

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  4. Maggy
    Feb 18, 2023 at 6:58am

    Didn’t they make refrigerators too? Neat car and I like the look of it. I’d pick it up just to tinker with it here and there as long as its solid underneath.Seems like a fair price .

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    • duaney
      Feb 18, 2023 at 9:41am

      Crosley made the refrigerators. Frazer also made rototillers.

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      • Andrew S MaceMember
        Feb 18, 2023 at 12:26pm

        Nash(-Kelvinator) also made refrigerators!

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      • maggy
        Feb 19, 2023 at 9:04am

        I was thinking of what andrew said and got mixed up. Crosley I knew as my buddys dad had one in the basement as a beer fridge.

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      • MikeH
        Feb 20, 2023 at 10:55am

        I still have a Crosley shelvadoor beer fridge in my shop. The thing is probably 80 years old and just keeps on keep’n on.

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    • Pnuts
      Feb 19, 2023 at 9:13am

      Gm made Frigidare, Ford made Philco,

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    • JMB#7
      Feb 19, 2023 at 2:37pm

      Nash-Kelvinator was the refrigerator. “The Kelvinators” is the name of a bluegrass band

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  5. Harry
    Feb 18, 2023 at 7:34am

    My dad had a Frazer, blue, a lot like this one. Like the Frazer I was a post war model so I don’t have many clear memories of it. I do remember him trading it in on a new Kaiser in 1952 or so, Caribbean Coral with some sort of alligator pattern plastic upholstery. We took delivery and a few miles from the dealer smoke started coming out from under the dash when Dad turned the radio on. Back to the dealer we went. Fast. The radio had been miswired. (Friday car maybe?) He dumped it when the company tanked. Went to a Mercury and never looked back.

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    • bone
      Feb 22, 2023 at 9:19am

      That would have been a Kaiser Dragon , if it had the alligator type upholstery- pretty rare car now !

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  6. Art Engel
    Feb 18, 2023 at 9:26am

    I don’t think A/C came out until 1956 in automobiles with the evaporator and fan assy mounted in the trunk.

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    • Andrew McKinnon
      Feb 18, 2023 at 9:51am

      Actually, Packard first offered factory air in 1940. There is a great history of automotive AC here:

      https://www.curbsideclassic.com/automotive-histories/cold-comfort-history-of-automotive-air-conditioning-part-3-post-world-war-ii/

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    • Robert L Roberge
      Feb 18, 2023 at 10:43am

      AC introduced in Packards in 1940.

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      • Charles Leonard Coker
        Feb 18, 2023 at 7:38pm

        yes, barely beating Cadillac by 2 months.

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    • Taconix
      Feb 18, 2023 at 10:45am

      Nash had a system in the late 30s, but it was conditioned air. Packard and Cadillac dabbled in air conditioning in the early 40s. The first GM air-conditioned cars were in 1953.

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      • Charles Leonard Coker
        Feb 18, 2023 at 7:37pm

        well Cadillac was part of GM long before the early 1940s.

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    • Charles Leonard Coker
      Feb 18, 2023 at 7:31pm

      Packard and Cadillac had air conditioning option before WWII, Air Conditioning returned in 1953 in Cadiilacs, Buicks, and Oldsmobiles, 1954 Pontiacs had the first up front – in dash factory air conditioning option, beating 1954 Nash by 6 months. I have transplanted the 1954 Pontiac a/c into my 1953 Pontiac Chieftain Custom Catalina. Charles L. Coker, 1953 & 1954 Pontiac technical advisor, Pontiac Oakliand Club International.

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    • Charles Leonard Coker
      Feb 20, 2023 at 5:56pm

      a/c came out in 1940 Packards, Cadillac followed two months later, after WW2 a/c returned in 1953 on Cadillacs, Buicks, and Oldsmobiles.

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  7. Billy Miller
    Feb 18, 2023 at 9:59am

    Consider the need/want for an auto after the war, what the other auto makers were offering ’47-51, styling, and the prices, and you will see why these were selling (even a 4 door hardtop). These were referred to as “slab sided”. Frazer ad Kaiser had started out right with a good stylist and mass production. Big mistake making the Henry J instead of a V-8, and a 2 door hardtop. Suer styling that I still find very nice. I still like that of the 54-55 Kaisers.

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  8. ramblergarage
    Feb 18, 2023 at 11:04am

    Nash invented the modern type air conditioning system used in all cars today. Kaiser & Fraser never offered air conditioning as far as I know.

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    • GitterDunn
      Feb 18, 2023 at 12:43pm

      That’s right – with the refrigeration expertise from their Kelvinator division, Nash was the first manufacturer to combine the A/C, heater, and ventilation into one integrated system that was universally adopted as the industry standard.

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    • Charles Leonard Coker
      Feb 18, 2023 at 7:35pm

      well Nash was first with one single control panel for heating, ventilation, and a/c, but 1954 Pontiac was first with factory up front in dash a/c and using a modern electric magnetic clutch on the compressor, Pontiac beat Nash by 6 months.

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    • Charles Leonard Coker
      Feb 20, 2023 at 6:02pm

      wrong, 1954 Pontiac was first with modern up front in dash factory a/c, beating 1954 Nash by 6 months, now 1954 Nash was first with one control panel for heater/defroster/ventilation/ and a/c, the 1954 Pontiac factory a/c had separate control panel mounted above the heater/defroster/ventilation control panel.

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      • GitterDunn
        Feb 21, 2023 at 2:27pm

        Charles, you open by saying I’m “wrong”, then proceed to confirm what I said, i.e. that in ’54, Nashes were the first cars with an integrated HVAC system.

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      • Charles Leonard Coker
        Feb 26, 2023 at 1:31am

        the all in one nash control panel is a separate issue, the 1954 Pontiac factory a/c was the first modern a/c system overall.

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      • GitterDunn
        Feb 26, 2023 at 12:09pm

        Close, but no cigar. Pontiac’s A/C was not a fully integrated system: the A/C still operated independently of the heater, and with separate controls and air outlets for each system. Again, Nash’s was the first fully integrated automotive HVAC system, the same system we all use now, almost 70 years later.

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  9. jimAND ROSE nashwinter
    Feb 18, 2023 at 1:52pm

    we have a 47 and it is in great shape;runs great;all primed and waiting for paint;just trying to decide colors?very heavy car;needfs a gas tank;cant find one;put in a fuel cell for now;cant wait to drive on road;77years old and still playing with cars;

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  10. Bob Cianci
    Feb 18, 2023 at 7:32pm

    The car is located not in the town of Sussex, but in Franklin Twp, in Sussex County. I’ve seen this car. It’s solid, but needs a full restoration. The owner was asking over $6K for it, and has dropped his price. It’s inside his place of business. He seemed like a nice guy, but the project would have been too much for me to take on.

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  11. Chris Cornetto
    Feb 18, 2023 at 9:21pm

    I knew a fella that had one of these with a super charger on it. Not sure of the year as this was over 30 years ago 52 comes to mind. The car was nice I rode in it a couple of times. Under the hood was a nightmare but he always had it running nice.

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  12. Joe Newmark
    Feb 21, 2023 at 5:00am

    My Grandfather had a 1947 in the same color blue! My father would never stop talking about what a great car it was. If my dad was still with us, I would snap that up and give it to him, after getting her running.
    Oh well…

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